IAM Fleet Service thread 8/20-8/31

[orioleman]

BF,
I can assure you that the NEW LEADERSHIP is VERY much in tune with saving cost.

there will be positions NOT filled to cut cost.


met some of your buddies in ord a couple weeks ago

 

[dexter]

😱 Good grief, Baghdad Bob has been complaining on these boards the doom and gloom over rising oil cost. Now BB is comparing apples to oranges by using the price of GOLD????

Must have been hit by schrapnel during a scud missle attack Road Trip.

OR>>>>>>>>Hit by a helping hand. The phobia within BB is somewhat like domestic violence victims....they always go back for more!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Question: What's the budget of the Messenger?
I don't want anybody to lose thier job but this
seems to me to be fat which could be cut. RD
was talking about a switch of communications
from print media to the internet. I'm all for
that especially if it would save some money.
That certainly would involve the yougner folks more.

Anyway watch for the increased relevance of disseminated
material under the new leadership.

Rich is looking in a new direction which may mean only having a quarterly newspaper to satisfy bylaw requirements. The messenger cost about $350,000 over 12 months according to public LM2 reports.
At any rate, I don't think the members have been getting their monies worth from the messenger as alot of the articles aren't even related to Labor.
Heck, in the June issue we were being instructed on how to protect our kids from mosquitos and ticks, had a puzzler and an article on good sportsmanship in softball games. WTH?

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[The Bagfather]

That's a good point, but I would take issue with
any implication that a distyricts budget has no
relation ofr impact on the national budget. I assume both
get a proportion of dues revenue unless somehow
they have other sources of income.
For that matter each local has some impact on the dues
situation. Right? or?

 

[The Bagfather]

This comment was directed towards 700's post.

 

[700UW]

I dont have the exact percentages, but the Intl get the most, followed by the District then the Local.

 

[perserverance]

The messenger is published by the District, not the International.

''Bagfather'' asked the cost not the publisher. Either way District
level or Int'l level the cost still comes from the dues structure.
RC is the Editor and Chief of the Messenger by the way.

At $350,000 yearly that cost can easily be removed through
messaging via the internet or postings in the workplace that
could be posted by the stewards at each city. The union boards
at work have long been ignored and upon daily updating could
become a useful tool to get the word out to all employees working
in the fleet group.

The Messenger though the intent was good has failed as an
informational tool and has also been corrupted by Canale and
others who influence and decide on the printed articles. Just ask
yourselves the last time, if any, it produced any information that
became a useful tool for yourself.

*** I sit corrected, see post below ***
This could be the subject of the next ''Pres. Message'' or
''Down on the Corner''. $350,000 yearly. One has to wonder
what the compensation for the Editor and Chief ( RC) is ?? or
the ''Down on the Corner'' guy, both named on page 2, are.

 

[Ramp Rogue]

The Messenger though the intent was good has failed as an
informational tool and has also been corrupted by Canale and
others who influence and decide on the printed articles. Just ask
yourselves the last time, if any, it produced any information that
became a useful tool for yourself.

Perserverance,

For your information, The Messenger helped me start my Bar-b-que Pit this weekend!

Rogue

 

[Tim Nelson]

Perserverance,

For your information, The Messenger helped me start my Bar-b-que Pit this weekend!

Rogue

And what else could it be used for?

The problem with the messenger is that it has been rendered prehistoric as a result of the internet. I mean, if something happens in June, you don't read about it until September in the messenger. Who needs a messenger like that? Very impractical as the Internet is the informaiton highway of today. IMO, the district 141 website will be much more useful to the members with additional resources and information given to the webpage to keep the members current. The webpage doesn't need $350,000 in publishing/stamps/printing cost that the messenger does.

I'd look for the messenger to be printed on a 'quarterly' basis with the primary reason being serving the members in a more effective, pronto way as opposed to the prehistoric methods that unions used in the last century.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[700UW]

The Messenger is also the official manner for notification for elections etc per the DOL.

 

[mike33]

The Messenger is also the official manner for notification for elections etc per the DOL.

You'd have to open it to get notified. Like you'd have to read it on the board if you passed by the union board. If there is an election, then an informational Flyer can be sent. I think a Quarterly would be more than enough information for all to handle. Email/Union boards are the way to go. Hell, we have IAM141.ORG.

Mike33

" I haven't been here for so long, I almost forgot how to get here "

 

[goodfellow]

I dunno which AGC you were thinking of (only seen NG and AF in LAS), but the BC I was talking about was (mis)management. He is the new Senior Manager of LAS. Until he destroys the station at least.

My mistake, was thinking of Bill Chandlee. PLZ excuse my mistake, THX GF

 

[orioleman]

Tim,
Have to agree with you on the internet system for the messenger.
as far as notifying for officer elections and such . That's such the old IAM way . keep everyone in the dark
getting info a month after its been addressed isn't really notification. and besides . The local has my
address change but not the district. SO I get NO notification or the Messenger.
mike33 has a good point . NO reason the grievance committee can't put out notifications on upcoming
elections . That system works well WHEN you have a committee committed to the membership and wants
to keep EVERYONE informed.

 

[700UW]

Per the DOL it has to be mailed to each members last known address on file.

 

[JoeDirt]

Per the DOL it has to be mailed to each members last known address on file.

I agree with Tim and everyone else. The system is so antiquated and ineffectual. Not to mention it is a huge waste of money. I never receive the Messenger until the following month and most of the information is outdated. If this is the DOL's idea of notification maybe its time for the DOL to join the 21st century. We do a better job on this message board getting information out.